Marvin Shilmer

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  German Branch visit talk Mark Sanderson (Parents; don't hinder young children to get baptized)

  by Daniel1555 in

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  the video streaming of the german branch visit program was excrutiating 3.5 hours long.. i just went to see the last 45 min (part of mark sandersons talk).. i think sanderson is quite a sympathetic speaker and he kind of made a loving impression.. he didn't mention controversial stuff (except for one thing i will come to soon).

  he mostly talked about how to find joy, even when life is not easy, and how much the gb loves the rank and file.. one point seemed soooo important to him.

  parents and children.

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  Watchtower — baptism — thousands of Children

  
  
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  Are the writers in the writing department purposely misquoting people?

  by paulmolark in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after reading that great post about the june 1 article on science i got to thinking.

  although it is great to believe there is this huge group of guys in the jw writing department that are constantly looking to mislead us by twisting the words of scientist etc... i really think it is more likely they are google researchers that do not have the ability to grasp the thoughts that are being expressed in the scientific article they quote mine from.. i honestly believe the reason that this happens is because of the individuals they use to write these magazines.

  these are not college educated men.

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  I honestly believe the reason that this happens is because of the individuals they use to write these magazines. these are not college educated men.

  Lack of adequate training may contribute to misrepresentations found in Watchtower publications but the root cause is, in my opinion, a groping for justification. Take for example Watchtower's misuse of statements made by Bartholomeo Santinelli. The document quoted from is in Latin, so someone inside Watchtower had to have had training sufficient to translate Latin into English and then cherry-pick words from what Santinelli said. It is impossible to have selectively picked what Watchtower writers did of Santinelli's position without realizing it amounted to a wholesale lie. It took training to do what those writers did.

  See: Watchtower misrepresents Santinelli
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  Any news about the Watchtower's Toxic Waste Dump cleanup?

  by VM44 in

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  2. scandals

  this is from 2011. http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com.au/2011/12/whistleblower-watchtowers-dump.html.

  is there any recent news concerning the toxic waste cleanup?.

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  I have an acquaintance who's worked at Watchtower's farm facility for decades. He operated heavy equipment and later supervised these operators. These days he's doing something else, but still at the farm. Back when this was all hitting the fan he said something to me in cryptic language about late-night digging and burying of materials. I replied with some cryptic language of my own and immediately he knew his code talk was understood by me beyond what he expected me to know. He clammed up tighter than a cinch knot!
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  Atheist Miracles

  by Perry in

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  2. friends

  i reworded a variation of a common critique of atheists to my own liking.

  no, i do not hate atheists, i love them!

  they keep me from getting bored.

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  First, there was nothing. Then, nothing acted upon the nothing and caused nothing to explode. Out of the exploded nothing, came everything and everywhere.

  That is wrong on so many levels I wouldn't know where to begin picking it apart; so I won't. It speaks for itself. Screams is more like it.

  "First, there was nothing." Wow!
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  Would you call JW HQ???

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a friend who is still in.

  this friend is a partaker, but has serious doubts about the org.

  this friend wants to stand up as a man, and wants to call wtbts hq.

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  Your friend can call, and it might make your friend feel better that he or she did what they could to help the cause. But many have tried this before. Thousands! Watchtower's higher-ups do not give a rat's ass what the rank-and-file "anointed" think about anything whatsoever. Watchtower is running a business, and it's a very profitable one.
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  "Normal family affections and dealings" continue - If only?!?

  by LHS123 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am new to this forum - it is only a couple of weeks since i have allowed myself to acknowledge and research my doubts.

  i am trying to be fair by reading both sides of the story and considering jw official explanation of confusing matters.

  one of the issues i have been looking at is shunning - and i was shocked to see the misleading information about shunning on the jw.org website: .

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  “Normal family affections and dealings”?
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  Shutting down the Judicial Committee "invite".

  by kairos in

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  2. friends

  judicial committee invitation comes, with be there or be square consequences.. ( come or we will df you ).

  what are the sure fire, tested and true tactics that will keep the elders off your back?

  ( for good ).

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  Says the masters to the slaves: "... you must do so in writhing..."

  I know it's got to be a typo, but still...
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  Sunday talk (4/26/15): Malawi persecution experiences

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so this sunday we arrived at the meeting late.

  like towards the very end of the public talk.

  local elder delivered the talk.

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  Watchtower and Malawi Made Simple
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  The Problems with Blood Fractions

  by God_Delusion in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  hi guys & gals,.

  i've written a new blog on the problems with blood fractions.

  i'd really love to hear your feedback on it.. http://www.jehovahswitnessblog.com/blood/the-problem-with-blood-fractions.

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  Your article is well done.

  From Watchtower’s Blood Stance Exposé :

  
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  The Watchtower's cash flow problems and financial solvency with lawsuits payouts

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i think with all this change we see occurring with the watchtower corporation's to deal with things means they are in financial trouble and are seeking to consolidate their real estate holdings for easy sale if needed to stay financially solvent.. they will stop or slowly decrease the door to door work and focus on the material potential of each member young and old for what ever they can get out of them.

  this will lead to more leaving under their tyranny.

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  Marvin Shilmer

  The Watchtower organization is laced with cash. My guess is their using cash to building a financial foundation that is practically untouchable and will support its activity for the indefinite future even if they lose every single donor down the road at some point.